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Long Reads: Elizabeth Schmidt on Somalia and the Superpowers

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🗓️ 24 September 2022

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

Elizabeth Schmidt joins Long Reads for a discussion about Somalia's modern history of politics, crisis, and foreign intervention. Elizabeth is professor emeritus of history at Loyola University Maryland and the author of six books about Africa, including Foreign Intervention in Africa After the Cold War: Sovereignty, Responsibility, and the War on Terror.


Read her piece, "US Interference in Somalia Has Been a Disaster for Somalis," here: https://jacobin.com/2022/08/somalia-siad-barre-islamists-us-military


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Long Reads is a Jacobin podcast looking in-depth at political topics and thinkers, both contemporary and historical, with the magazine’s longform writers. Hosted by Features Editor Daniel Finn. Produced by Conor Gillies, music by Knxwledge.



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0:00.0

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0:34.5

Hello, you're very welcome to Long Reads, a Jacobin podcast where we look in depth at

0:38.4

political topics and thinkers.

0:40.6

My name's Daniel Finn, and the features editor here at Jacobin, and I'll be presenting

0:45.2

the show.

0:47.0

Western media coverage has often depicted Somalia as the classic example of a failed state.

0:52.8

For the past three decades, no government has been able to control its national territory.

0:58.3

But news reports about terrorism and piracy have obscured the fact that Somalia is very much

1:03.3

a part of the world's system.

1:05.4

From the Cold War to the War on Terror, outside intervention by the world's most powerful

1:09.8

states has played a major role in worsening the Somali crisis.

1:15.3

Our guest today for a conversation about modern Somalia is Elizabeth Schmidt.

1:19.6

She's a professor emeritus of history at Loyola University, Maryland, who specializes in

1:24.8

the history of Africa.

1:26.6

Her most recent book is Foreign Intervention in Africa after the Cold War.

1:33.4

How did the post-colonial Somali state emerge after the period of British and Italian rule?

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