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Hello, you're very welcome to Long Reads, a Jacuban podcast where we look in

depth at political topics and thinkers. My name is Daniel Finn and the features editor here at Jacuban,

and I'll be presenting the show. Soon before he launched the invasion of Iraq, George W. Bush

insisted that his government had no issue with Muslims. This became a familiar theme in the

rhetoric of US politicians after the 9-11 attacks. Her nation is waging war on a radical network of

terrorists, not on a religion, and not on a civilization. As we wage this war to defend our principles,

we must live up to those principles ourselves,

and one of the deepest commitments of America is tolerance.

No one should be treated unkindly because of the color of their skin or the content of their

cream. No one should be unfairly judged by appearance or ethnic background or religious faith.

Over the next two decades, the experience of fighting wars in countries like Iraq and Afghanistan

converted the platitudes of Bush into the naked bigotry of Donald Trump.

I think Islam hates us. There's something there, there's something there that there's a tremendous

hatred there. There's a tremendous hatred. We have to get to the bottom of it. There is an

unbelievable hatred of us in Islam itself. You're going to have to figure that out, okay? You'll

get another Pulitzer, right? But you're going to have to figure that out. But there is a tremendous

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