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Hey everybody, this is Heidi St. John. Welcome to the podcast. Today I have a really special

guest on the podcast. Catherine McNeil is going to be talking about her new book, The

Long Days of Small Things. I think you're going to be really encouraged.

All right, so I got a letter from, or an email rather, from one of my friends at 10

Dale, not too long ago, and she wanted to introduce me to a new book that's out. And I am a

huge fan of women who are willing to write about, right honestly, about motherhood. And

so I sort of waited for this to come in the mail and have been kind of going through it

and have been encouraged by what I've been reading because you guys have heard me say

this a whole bunch on the podcast. You can't give your kids what you don't have. And so

today, Catherine McNeil is on the podcast with me. She has a brand new book and we are really

close to her launch date, which was just a few days ago. So Catherine, welcome to the podcast.

Thanks so much Heidi. I'm really happy to be here today.

So I'm kind of curious about you. You and I don't really know each other very well. So this

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