Loneliness, Isolation, and Presence
The Allender Center Podcast
The Allender Center
4.7 • 647 Ratings
🗓️ 28 November 2025
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
Loneliness is a human experience, but it's one we don't always acknowledge honestly. In this deeply personal conversation, Dan and Rachael open up about the moments when loneliness and suffering make us unsure of what we need, what we want, or how to ask for help.
They also zoom out: why loneliness is rising, how our culture quietly reinforces isolation, and why recognizing our ache for connection is a sign of our humanity, not our failure.
You probably won't find quick fixes or step-by-step solutions in this conversation. Rather, consider this episode an invitation to reflect on your own ambivalence, your desire for connection, and the quiet, messy courage it takes to reach out—both when you feel lonely and when you sense someone else might be, too.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Rachel Clinton Chen. For over 10 years, the Eleanor Center podcast has been sharing conversations about story, faith, and healing from trauma and abuse. So far, we've recorded over 600 episodes, all free and all available to anyone who needs them. |
| 0:24.3 | And here's the thing. We want to keep it that way. But producing each episode takes time, |
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| 1:07.3 | keep these conversations alive for years to come. |
| 1:26.7 | Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast. I'm Dr. Dan Allender. |
| 1:28.3 | And I'm Rachel Clinton-Chen. |
| 1:32.6 | We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world. |
| 1:34.9 | And restoration for the heart. |
| 1:36.5 | Thank you for joining us. |
| 1:54.3 | Let's get this conversation started. All right, I want to describe a moment and get your input. But I'll tell you the theme. |
| 2:04.9 | When you're alone and you're suffering, do you want connection or do you not? That's the question. But here's the story. Again, I had surgery. I didn't go well in terms of the aftermath. Weeks of bearing a catheter |
| 2:16.0 | unable to allow my prostate to release, and Becky's gone |
| 2:23.1 | because she has obligations. I am so sick and tired of watching distracting TV, and I really am in enough pain I can't read, |
| 2:37.8 | which is always my escape, |
| 2:41.2 | but also a playground of meaning and engagement. |
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