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The Plot Thickens

London Slog

The Plot Thickens

TCM Podcasts

Tv & Film, Film History

4.84.8K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

20th Century Fox pays Elizabeth Taylor a record-breaking salary to play Cleopatra, then tries to save money by filming the movie in England. That turns out to be a disastrous decision. The weather doesn’t agree with Liz, who suffers one health problem after another, delaying production for months. Fox then faces the question: pull the plug on this movie... or fire the director and find someone new to save the picture? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Please note, this podcast series contains mentions of suicide and domestic violence.

0:05.3

My great uncle, my grandfather's brother, lived in a farmhouse in upstate New York,

0:10.6

about an hour from the city. Joe made movies, wrote, and directed them. I was young when he

0:16.4

was still alive, but I do remember one thing clearly. His was four Oscars sitting out on his fireplace mantle.

0:24.4

Joe was a seriously big deal in Hollywood during the 1940s and 50s.

0:29.5

Uh, hello, uh, hello cousin.

0:31.6

Hello, cousin.

0:32.8

Alex Bankewitz is Joe's daughter.

0:34.8

Good to see you.

0:36.4

You as well.

0:38.3

Where are you? Alex is my age. She grew up in that farmhouse with the Oscars and with other reminders of Joe's

0:45.3

movies.

0:46.3

Upstairs in the house there was a corridor lined with posters of all of the movies that he

0:52.3

directed.

0:53.3

And he directed 20 films and there were 19 posters.

0:55.9

Right.

0:56.7

Yeah.

0:57.7

The one poster Joe did not hang was for a movie he directed called Cleopatra.

1:04.4

Cleopatra was the Voldemort of my childhood.

1:08.2

I mean, it was truly, you know, the thing that shall not be named.

1:16.2

Cleopatra took three years to make.

1:18.7

It starred Elizabeth Taylor, the most famous actress in the world.

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