Oh, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, today's guess, today's guess we've got no razor smith.

How are you know?

Not bad as yourself.

Yeah really good.

First of all, thanks for coming on the show.

Oh, problem. You've got a very interesting story. Spent over 30 years in prison.

200 banks, you've robbed. But while you're in prison you taught yourself out of reading right

you've come out won all sorts of awards for publishing articles now you're doing great things

you're 10 years out which is your longest stint ever out of prison but we'll go right back to the

starter kind of where your life began and where you grew up and stuff well I suppose really

I was born in London my parents were Irish immigrants from Dublin.

They came over in 1959 and I was born in 1960 in Cherryaring Cross, the old Charing Cross Hospital, and really grew up

until I was nine in North London.

And we kind of moved around a lot, as a lot of families did in those days and

North London was still suffering the effects of the Second World War. I mean

seriously there was like bomb sites everywhere houses pulled down all over the

place and we everywhere houses pulled down all over the place.

And we were just really normal kids,

you know, we just rammed all the bomb sites

and done the usual stuff.

And then when I was about nine there was a big problem over in

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