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There was major sort of, I wouldn't say trauma, but trauma to some extent whereby my mum

that would argue quite a lot, and being young, I would always try and break up the fight.

I've never understood why people need to, or feel the need to, you know, dehumanise somebody else

just for their own pleasure. So, you know, I stuck up for this kid and basically yeah,

that was kind of what led to the bullying. Back in the 80s, the bullying in schools was so prevalent,

and I'll be honest with you, the teachers really didn't take it on bull, like the way they do now.

And I was going down to shop one day and this guy was, he was at the bus stop, and I remember

he very masked me in the time I might have asked him the time, you know, he would take me and my sister

out, you know, to swimming, you know, he would take me out up to London, because I mean I didn't

really realise that I was going to buy him until a lot later. I had to say like nothing had happened

because I felt that's the only choice I had. And they are made to feel like myself,

was all made to feel like it was, it was helpful, you know, he's used to say to me I'm doing this

because I love you. And I remember him pushing me onto the bed and literally he tried me.

As I would like him, for example, to be sat in his chair and I would like to ask him why he's done,

what you done? I would really like to know honestly, why you're done, what you done.

So I recently had dinner with Jamie and he's got a really positive vibe about him. He has been

through a hell of a lot in his life and this is going to be an extremely harrowing story. Due to the

nature of what Jamie has been through right now and required by the UK police to ask Jamie, does he

wave his anonymity? Do you wave your anonymity Jamie? Yeah. Yeah. All right, so huge thank you for

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