London: Alibi Ironies of Victorian Crime
Foul Play: A Historical True Crime Podcast
Shane L. Waters, Wendy Cee, Gemma Hoskins
4.5 β’ 992 Ratings
ποΈ 9 January 2014
β±οΈ 22 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Language and content in this episode may not be appropriate for all listeners. |
| 0:05.0 | Listener discretion is strongly advised. |
| 0:08.0 | Some voices may come from voice actors, but the words are accurate to the interview described. |
| 0:14.0 | Long back outweigh. Long Black Highway. Take me all. The best imaginable alibi, is simply to place yourself in police custody at the time |
| 0:56.0 | the crime is committed. |
| 0:58.1 | If the police are with you, they know it's not you, or so the logic goes. |
| 1:04.0 | This is in fact the very thought process that stalled the prosecution of Jerry Johns for the |
| 1:10.0 | Redhead murders. |
| 1:11.8 | When Jerry went to trial for the attempted murder of Linda Shaq in 1985, investigators |
| 1:18.5 | were already closing in on him for the Redhead murders, And they were gearing up for prosecution when Espy Pilgrim was found locked inside an abandoned |
| 1:28.3 | refrigerator along the I40 corridor. Espy's discovery on April 1st, 1985, was incredibly problematic for investigators, |
| 1:40.0 | because when it happened, Jerry Johns was with them in the Knox County Jail. |
| 1:46.6 | He was subsequently ruled out as the Redhead murderer and the case went cold, almost overnight. |
| 1:54.5 | But the closer you look at Espy's case, the more you realize how unusual it was. |
| 2:00.4 | And that throughout all of this, everyone was focused on Jerry, that they completely overlooked his younger brother. |
| 2:07.0 | In fact, no one in this case appears to have paid Wayne much attention at all except I believe one unlucky |
| 2:17.4 | transient named Espy Pilgrim. |
| 2:19.8 | Maybe the weirdest thing about Espy's murder was the fact that while she had clearly been murdered, |
| 2:27.0 | she did not appear to have been the victim of violent crime. |
| 2:31.0 | She had been dead for hours when they found her from suffocation, but she wasn't strangled. |
| 2:36.0 | There was a remarkable lack of physical trauma on her body. |
| 2:40.0 | She was naked, but there were no ligature marks on her neck or feet, and her hands had not been tied. |
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