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Welcome to the back-to-back podcast on the Athletic Podcast Network.

Call me when you wake up.

You playing hurt, Jade?

Oh, I got this cold over the weekend. And this is a good shape. My voice is kind of back.

Yeah, you sound like puberty Fred I'm back is it Frederick or just Fred uh you know my real name is Matthew what is Fred

your middle name nope just the nickname that everyone's called me my whole life what that's a nickname

yep Matt cats is pretty good, though. It almost runs. I like Matt Katz. That's interesting. Yeah, my name's John, but people call me Ed. What? That's exactly right. What? Is that me? It's my go-to fake name for people. Oh,

I'm just wondering, is that a thing to say Fred for Matt or no? It's just random, right? No,

it's my third grade teacher came up with it. And it stuck. Wow. None of this story makes sense.

No one calls me Matthew, like the only two people who call me Matthew or my dad calls me Matt and my mom calls me

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