So, we've had a few guests who are UK citizens who've ended up banged up abroad.

The ones that have ended up in American systems, people think American must develop

country in the oil must be easy out there.

The jails are madness, they're gang-infested, drug-infested, corruption, it's short-shank

redemption and all kinds of craziness going on up there.

So, we are so excited, Gabs has come from Camden.

There's going to be a New York incarceration story, but there are many other threads and stories

to Gabs's life story which we're going to get in today.

Have you got anything to add to that, John?

Yeah, do you want to be known as Gabs or Ask Gabs?

So, you know, just Gabs.

Where is it easy for you to be honest?

Gabs for really?

Yeah.

That's what I'm used to being called.

Because we've got redemption through music, haven't we?

That's got to be a theme.

Yeah.

So, well, thank you for coming on.

My pleasure, my pleasure.

Yeah, let's get back to the start, then.

So, growing up, where did you grow up?

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