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Oh God, What Now?

Lockdown III: Why Threequels Always Suck

Oh God, What Now?

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Politics, Government, News, Society & Culture

4.62.5K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2021

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

This podcast recorded before the invasion of the Capitol building in Washington DC. “Happy” New Year! With Britain’s kids getting one whole day of virus-spreading schooling, is a third lockdown any use in the absence of a coherent COVID policy? And how are we coping with yet more home schooling and working from home without even a takeaway pint to assuage the misery? Plus trade expert David Henig joins us to point out the hidden traps in Johnson’s make-do trade deal and explain what the UK needs to do to get EU trade back to a passable standard. “The deal we have does nothing like what’s needed for a modern trading relationship.” – David Henig “On Brexit, Starmer is becoming less distinguishable from Johnson. He needs to remember that most people no longer support the Brexit vote.” – Naomi Smith “Other than spite, I have no idea why we didn’t choose to participate Erasmus.” – David Henig “Keeping schools open was the only thing the Government could cling to as a success. No wonder they clung to it like wreckage.” – Ros Taylor “We’re already getting companies saying, With all these data barriers is it really worth us being based in the UK?” – David Henig “It’s pretty clear that Johnson agrees with the last person he spoke to… and that Dominic Cummings’ influence was perhaps not as malign as we thought.” – Ros Taylor “There’s a Greek saying: If you’ve eaten a whole donkey, don’t forget to eat the tail.” – Alex Andreou Presented by Dorian Lynskey with Alex Ros Taylor, Andreou and Naomi Smith. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

This edition of OgodWatNow was recorded before the events at the US Capitol on Wednesday evening,

0:04.5

just in case you're wondering why we're not talking about it.

0:06.8

Brian Class joined us for an emergency bunker discussing the events in Washington,

0:10.1

which you can find wherever you get your podcasts.

0:17.2

Hello and welcome to the first OgodWatNow of 2021. Happy in Scarquoise New Year.

0:22.9

Not a classic start, I'm gonna say. I'm Dorian, let's get three regulars here to get me through

0:27.8

lockdown the third. Naomi Smith is chief executive, Bessabrit and hello Naomi.

0:32.6

Hi. In old far distant December news, the trade deal was finally signed over Christmas,

0:40.5

so Brexit is legally done. How did you feel when it was finally over on New Year's Eve?

0:46.5

Well it was such mixed emotions, you know, on the one hand there was this huge sense of relief,

0:51.3

not least because we'd had a trial run of Dover disruptions due to the new variant outbreaks

0:58.0

and countries closing their borders to us. And it best written and on the show and all

1:02.8

less of it, we'd always said that of course a thin deal is still better than no deal at all

1:07.1

because of providing the foundations on which you can build a better relationship with Europe over time.

1:13.5

Because goodness knows without close-up alignment, there's certainly no hope of this ever rejoining,

1:18.5

which I know many of our listeners hope will happen within their lifetime so that we can get our

1:22.7

freedom of movement and citizenship back. But on the other hand, of course I had a huge, huge

1:28.8

sense of frustration and loss because the deal isn't only completely inferior, of course,

1:33.9

to the membership that we did enjoy, but it's a pale reflection of what Johnson himself had promised

1:38.8

at the last election. And it was accompanied by statements that just weren't true. I mean,

1:44.4

listeners all remember that during that Christensteeve statement Johnson said there would be no

1:48.5

non-tariff barriers. And of course there are many, there's the declarations, there's checks,

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