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This is the Dunlabel Tarsho with this two-guts podcast.

Carl Anthony Towns, I mean, occupies a space for me that not a lot of other athletes reside in,

which is holy shit, as a seven-footer at any time in my lifetime before the last five or six years,

I would have looked at your game and been like, how the hell does that exist?

And how does it not dominate the entire sport?

Instead, if you play word association with me on Carl Anthony Towns,

what I would do is didn't have the strength to run with Jimmy Butler.

He and Andrew Wiggins weren't able to be whatever Jimmy Butler wanted them to be in Minnesota.

A different kind of cat, forgive the pun, wanted him to be tougher.

And then this week, Carl Anthony Towns says on a podcast somewhere,

something that just received universal mockery,

which is when he's done playing the game, he says,

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