La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La La Laude, which we explain for people who may just be tuning in a podcast of the cinema. Starring who? Well, you are Dave White and I'm Alonzo Duralde,

which we explained for people who may just be tuning in for the first time.

And today...

Because we have a special guest.

We've...

Today we've tried to hook up the third microphone to the new soundboard.

Oh, yeah.

Easier said than done as it turns out.

The net effect has been curious and questionable.

Anyway, it was worth doing because today we have a reason for a third, Mike.

Joining us is the host of the A Very Good Year podcast, an author of the incredible new biography, Gandalfini, all the way from New York City.

Jason Bailey, welcome.

New York City.

Yes, I'm old.

If you're old enough for that reference, you might be old enough to listen to this interview.

That's our demographic spot, I think, generally.

Hello, welcome.

Thank you so much for having me.

It's always so fun when you get to like go to where the magic happens. And I'm gathered around the table where you, where you to break your bread every night and make your audio magic. It's a real thrill. It really is. Well, you've painted the best possible

picture of sitting at our kitchen table. But thank you. Yes. No, it's great to have you here.

So, yeah, so the book is a biography of the late great James Gandalfini. And what I have learned

to ask now is, is this a project that you pitched or was it brought to you?

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