Lizzy McAlpine is The Pope
So True with Caleb Hearon
Headgum
4.9 • 975 Ratings
🗓️ 26 June 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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Welcome! This week’s guest is the talented Lizzy McAlpine! Lizzy and Caleb talk Lizzy’s Broadway debut in Floyd Collins, writing bad songs as a teen, the rigors of touring, her songwriting process, dads, and much more!
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| 0:00.0 | This is a headgum podcast. |
| 0:05.0 | I really relate to the Red Rocks moment because I have, in my last hour, I have a huge section about my dead dad. |
| 0:11.1 | Dads are addicted to dying and they'll just do it. |
| 0:13.7 | They're just like dropping dead out of nowhere. |
| 0:15.6 | They're like, bye. |
| 0:16.2 | They're like, see you all. |
| 0:17.0 | See you later. |
| 0:17.4 | See you later. |
| 0:18.5 | Like, what is going on with dads? |
| 0:20.0 | They're just dying left and right. |
| 0:28.9 | Lizzie. |
| 0:29.5 | I'm so excited you're here. |
| 0:30.6 | Hey, me too. |
| 0:31.7 | Dude, I have to tell you. |
| 0:32.7 | I almost told you this before, but then I was like, save it for the episode, Caleb. |
| 0:35.9 | I, well, first of of all I love your music |
| 0:38.0 | I'm such a huge fan but I got to have one of the I don't know if you'll relate to this or not |
| 0:44.0 | but I feel like your music is so good for it was raining so hard when I was coming over here |
| 0:48.5 | and I was fucking staring out the window listening to your like this is Lizzie McAlpine |
| 0:53.4 | you know tracks and i was like |
| 0:56.4 | this is what this music is about i think so yeah it's about a rainy longing yeah it's i was i was |
| 1:02.7 | locked in great love that for you i love love love love love your music i'm so glad you're here |
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