Lizzo’s Complicated, Joyful Pop

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The New York Times

Music Interviews, Music Commentary, Music

3.6 • 1.5K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

The singer, rapper and songwriter’s peppy empowerment songs have made her an outlier in a field dominated by melancholic music. Guests: The Ringer's Justin Charity; Lindsay Zoladz; and William Robin.

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0:00.0	Welcome to the New York Times podcast, your public adversary, private owl of music news
0:09.4	and criticism.
0:10.4	I'm your host, John Caramonica.
0:27.3	If you are feeling exuberant, if you are feeling uplifted, if you are feeling joy, you are
0:35.2	feeling Lizzo.
0:37.2	That is what you were feeling.
0:38.2	That was about damn time that we came in with about damn time is the single from the new
0:43.3	Lizzo album, which is called Special.
0:44.9	We've never done a Lizzo episode or at least not fully dedicated to Lizzo.
0:49.0	So on this week's podcast, what we're going to do is we're going to talk about her new album.
0:53.6	We're going to talk about the meta narratives that are surrounding the discourse on the
0:59.0	album.
1:00.0	Lindsay Zollads is going to be here, Justin Charity is going to be here and we're going
1:04.0	to talk about all things Lizzo and all things empowerment and whether empowerment is compatible
1:14.0	with great pop music.
1:16.2	And sometimes I think people think it's not, but maybe it is.
1:19.6	The answer might surprise you.
1:21.7	At the end of the episode, we're going to do a quick segment and you guys will hopefully
1:25.5	ride with me on this.
1:26.8	Richard Taroskin is a very important classical music critic and academic passed away recently.
1:31.7	We're going to talk about Taroskin's role in evolving the discourse on classical music
1:37.3	in the public sphere.
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