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Liz Weil On Coming to Terms with the Trans-Apocalypse

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Politics, News, News Commentary

4.6656 Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2022

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

Beset by a climate crisis that's creating ever more devastating wildfires, Californians may find it "easy, even comforting, to sit in despair," writes reporter Liz Weil. But, she continues, "nihilism is a failure of the imagination, the bleak, easy way out. We need to face the lives before us." That includes recognizing that we're in what climate futurists call the "trans-apocalypse:" a reality defined by the imperative that humans engage constantly with ecological threats. We'll talk to Weil about the origins of California's wildfire problem and how we can reframe and address it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The fire in Big Sur that broke out over the weekend had National Weather Service officials

1:09.7

describing it as surreal, given that

1:12.2

it's January and the region just went through record-setting storms that should have kept

1:17.7

fires at bay.

1:19.9

But California's wildfires have been defying expectations for some time now.

1:25.3

And in her latest piece for The New York Times magazine, Elizabeth Wild

1:28.5

grapples with the state's year-round wildfires and the toll of still expecting a normal

1:35.4

that no longer exists. Lyswiswis' piece is titled, This is Not the California I Married.

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Lizhaw, welcome to Forum.

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Having me. The relationship metaphor,

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