It turns out for me having control is more important than having money. I need to feel I have a choice in everything that I'm doing.

That's a real, that's the thing I can't live without.

This is death, sex, and money.

I made you a tape of what I think are all romantic songs. The show from

WNYC about the things we think about a lot. You bought her a house and need to

talk about more. Rock and roll never dies, Thunderball. I'm Anna Sale.

The day I talked to musician Liz Fair, she came into the studio right before a recording session for a new song.

She told me the timing of our interview was intentional.

I'm worried about the song I'm going to be recording in the studio later today, which

made it perfect to come here.

I could have scheduled going to the studio a different day but I knew that I would be very

stressed about the song that I'm going to record today so we put work in today to get me

distracted enough to go to the studio so I could do the song that I'm worried about.

It just it's it sounds more complicated than it is really.

It's just that I've learned how to use my rebellious streak

to my own advantage.

I think that's one of the graces of aging is that you get to know yourself well

enough to make your bad habits start to work for you. Yes exactly how do we

turn this into a productive habit? Liz is 52, and that kind of self-knowledge is what makes her new memoir horror stories so good.

In the book, Liz writes in detail about some of the most private

moments in her life like the affair she had that ended her marriage and years

later the pain of being cheated on by someone she loved and the grocery shopping that

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