Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. And I'm Laura Owens. Have you ever felt alone,

bored, frustrated, overwhelmed, or insecure at work? Who hasn't, right? On this episode,

we're going to take a wide-ranging look at emotions in the workplace. How should you deal with

jealousy, insecurity, panic, anger, or simply having your feelings hurt on the job? Our guests,

Liz Foslien, and Molly West Duffy are organizational consultants who've studied how

emotions affect our professional lives and how we can navigate emotions at work. They've written

about it and charmingly illustrated examples in their new book, No Hard Feelings, Emotions at Work,

and how they help us succeed. Liz and Molly, thank you so much for joining us.

Thanks for having us.

Yeah, very excited to be here.

Tell us why you decided to create this book in the first place.

Sure.

So Liz and I have been writing articles together,

and we probably would turn one of our articles into a book. And the topic that we both

have been talking a lot about is this idea that when you first start working, you think

that you have to be professional and there's no room for emotions at work. And we each had our

own backstory. So I had been working as a product manager for a startup,

and I woke up one day, and that area above my right eye was completely numb. And I finally went to

go see a doctor after a few days, and the diagnosis was anxiety. And I realized I had all these

emotions coming up, fear, anxiety, frustration,

and I wasn't able to talk about them in the workplace or really learn from them. I had just

been repressing them. And Liz can share her story from when she was first getting started.

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