Hello and not mad, just disappointed.

Every episode you get a new pair of feminists to talk about the thing we can't get off our minds.

And today, you've got me, Christina Kauterucci. I'm a senior writer at

slate and host of the slate podcast Outward. And me Laura Miller I'm the Books and

and Culture columnist for slate. This week Laura and I are talking about Liz late. congressional hearings about the January 6th attack on the Capitol, you've been

seeing a lot of Cheney. She's the vice chair of that committee and one of only two

Republicans there. So Cheney has been at the head of this investigation that's revealing how Donald Trump tried his very best to overturn the results of the 2020 election and hold on to presidential power.

And because Liz Cheney voted election and hold on to presidential power.

And because Liz Cheney voted to impeach Trump after the January 6th attack, Trump has endorsed

her primary opponent, another Republican who's currently leading by about 22 points in the polls.

So Cheney is almost certainly going to lose her job in a few months.

This is why I'm excited to talk about her today because it's thrilling in a

way to watch what she's been doing because it's just so rare to see somebody do that.

Mostly when we see people in politics,

you know, they are often swayed by big donors,

by lobbyists, by their

parties very often and less often they can be moved by the feelings and opinions of their

constituents but what it seems like we're watching when we watch Cheney

is somebody who may very well be throwing

away their career in elected office to do what she believes is right. Her

motivation seems to be almost entirely internal.

I'll be interested to hear what you think, Laura,

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