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The New Abnormal

Liz Cheney Is Ready to Follow Donald Trump to the Gates of Hell

The New Abnormal

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2022

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

The Jan. 6 hearing was everything it had to be, The New Abnormal co-hosts Molly Jong-Fast and Andy Levy agreed—and Republicans knew it. Liz Cheney, said Molly, in a conversation recorded just after the prime-time hearing ended, “is an extremely good speaker you can tell will follow Donald J. Trump to the gates of Hell.” So as the damning case was laid out, the MAGA set did their best to pretend it simply wasn’t happening. Plus: Pod Save America co-host Dan Pfeiffer talks about “why Democrats keep losing the messaging war,” his new book Battling the Big Lie: How Fox, Facebook and the MAGA Media Are Destroying America and the “decades-long billionaire funded plan to build up an alternate information bubble,” and Ian Bremmer, author of The Power of Crisis: How Three Threats – and Our Response – Will Change the World explains that there are four now: the pandemic, global climate change, “the proliferation of disruptive and dangerous technologies, and now you have the Russians invading Ukraine and a war in Europe.”







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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Molly John Fass, no relationship to Kim Jong-un.

0:04.6

I'm a left-wing pundit and a writer at the Atlantic Envo.

0:08.0

And I'm Andy Levy, former Fox News and CNN HLN Guy and current cable news conscientious

0:13.7

objective.

0:14.7

And I've produced Suggesticated and I'm here to make sure things don't go too far off

0:18.0

the rails.

0:19.0

We're here to have fun, smart conversations with the wisest and funniest people in science

0:23.5

and media and politics that help make what's happening today clearer.

0:28.0

Our world has been turned upside down and on the new app normal we'll talk about the

0:31.8

people who got us into this mess and how we'll hopefully get ourselves out of it.

0:35.4

What an excellent show we have today.

0:37.7

First we're going to talk to Dan Fyfer, who you of course know as co-host of Pods Save

0:40.9

America and he's going to tell us all about his new book, Battling the Big Lie, How Fox

0:45.4

Facebook and the Maga Media are destroying America.

0:48.1

Then we're going to talk to Ian Bremmer about his latest book, The Power of Crisis, How

0:52.3

Three Threats in Our Response Will Change the World.

0:55.2

But first we stayed up late tonight to watch the January 6 trials and we're going to

0:58.9

tell you all about what we saw.

1:01.4

Andy Levy.

1:02.4

Molly John Fist.

1:03.4

It is 10 o'clock at night.

1:05.5

We are discussing the hearing we just watched.

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