Living With And Learning From Estrangement
Notes from America with Kai Wright
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 23 January 2023
⏱️ 47 minutes
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Summary
Estrangement isn’t linear. For those who have severed ties or been cut off, it can be necessary, empowering, devastating and confounding—all at once.
A recent series from WNYC’s Death, Sex & Money podcast explores the complexities of estrangement, which they define as an experience of feeling cut off from a relationship or a community that once felt like home. Death, Sex & Money host Anna Sale teams up with Kai Wright to expand on the topic in a listener-driven episode. Together with Rebecca Martinez Fitzgerald, a therapist based in Durham, North Carolina, they respond to callers wrestling with relationships and differences in values. Hear more about this topic on Death, Sex & Money.
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| 0:00.0 | Astrangement feels like I've lost a limb and I'm learning how to live without it. |
| 0:11.1 | I have been estranged from my family since I was 16. |
| 0:16.0 | I moved out and I just never saw them again. |
| 0:18.5 | I responded and told him, well, the hubris that it takes to tell somebody how they should |
| 0:23.9 | think has to be pretty high and that sort of, it blew it up pretty badly. |
| 0:29.2 | That had been reaching out and trying to contact her and she just wanted to tell me that |
| 0:35.8 | she just wanted me to stop trying to contact her. |
| 0:39.2 | Because the estrangement is kind of this thing that there's no like public rituals for it, |
| 0:44.8 | like people might see me and I'm like, high functioning and yet I carried all that |
| 0:49.3 | brief with me. |
| 1:10.0 | It's Notes from America, I'm Kai Wright, welcome to the show. |
| 1:15.2 | And this week we're trying something new. |
| 1:17.7 | Those voices you just heard, those are listeners of one of my favorite shows, Death, Sex, |
| 1:23.0 | and Money. |
| 1:24.0 | And their host Anna Sale is with me this week to invite all of us into an interesting conversation |
| 1:29.5 | she's been having with her listeners over the past few months. |
| 1:32.7 | Hey Anna. |
| 1:33.7 | Hi Kai. |
| 1:34.7 | Yeah, we just put out this series about a Strangement on the podcast in December and in the course |
| 1:39.3 | of making it, we heard from hundreds and hundreds of listeners about the pain, isolation |
| 1:45.5 | and really the lack of public vocabulary about a Strangement. |
| 1:49.8 | And a Strangement in our meaning is an experience of feeling cut off from a relationship or a |
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