Hello and a belated welcome to the new year.

It's been a while, but I'm eager to share this conversation that I had with Naomi Grabenberg,

founder of Diverse VAN Life with you all.

But before we jump in, I have an exciting announcement. It's a new book from the She Explorers team called Women and Water.

It features more than 40 swimmers, paddlers, sailors, surfers, activists, artists, and more that are all

along various stages of their water journeys.

It's co-authored by me and my teammates Haley Hurst and Noel Russell published by Chronicle Books and

available for pre-sale wherever you find books. It launches everywhere in March

2023 but pre-sales really help a book success. You can learn more at she hyphen explorers.com and I'll also

share the direct link and the show notes. Stay tuned here for more. I'll be sharing interviews

with some of the 40 women featured in the book but for

now on with the show. I'm Yale Straub and you're listening to She Explores.

I'm an eco van Lifer, digital nomad, community builder, you name it.

I've been living on the road in my 1985 Volkswagen Vanagon with my partner and my

pups since 2016 so I'm somewhat of a van life og.

Originally from the island of Trinidad. Yeah, I guess that's good.

Yes, a lot.

This is Naomi Grabenberg, a leader in the world of Van Life and the founder of Diversify

Van Life, a platform that highlights less heard voices in the community.

It's also a resource that helps break down barriers to accessing life on the road,

a lifestyle that Naomi and her husband Dustin embarked on in 2016.

I chatted with Naomi towards the end of the year when she was coming off of a much needed

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