Hey Parker. Hi, Krista. How are you? I'm fine. Good. Yeah. So Parker, I did not

overthink this. I didn't, you know, the living the questions is really truly

conversational and not the usual preparation I do. I just want it to be like

it is when you and I get on the phone together. Yes. And we're gonna be putting

the soul and depression show out again also. Yeah. And there's the story you tell

about your depression, which you told me in the show, which you've written about

that no one ever forgets is about the friend that you you were depressed and

kind of unable to see beyond right? You're one is so trapped and it is so dark

all around. And words failed and all the all the things people said that were

trying to be helpful just made it worse. And you tell the story of this one

friend who somehow knew to come to you and he didn't try to talk and he didn't

tell you it was gonna be better, but he rubbed your feet and that somehow he

had touched the one place in you that still had feeling. And you know, when I

think about that image, I just wonder what is the equivalent of what we can do in

this culture right now to find the places that can still feel comfort and to

what's our communal equivalent of rubbing each other's feet? Well, I have to say

first of all that I don't think anything can take the place of a good foot robe. There's

just something about, there's as many people know as you know, there's just

something about you know that kind of bodily care from a trusted person, which

Bill Taber certainly was for me the late Bill Taber man I always want to

honor for helping to save my life. There's something about that kind of touch

that's just that reconnects you to the human community. When you're in a state

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