I would actually say the kitchen is not as much of a problem

because it is a workspace.

And there's kind of a workflow in there

like you make the meal, gets messy,

you clean up and set it back to baseline.

For us, surfaces are definitely an issue,

whether it's like the coffee table

or the console and the entryway like stuff

that we gather on those horizontal surfaces,

no matter how diligent we are.

And that's one of those things that's like constant maintenance.

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