It's an invention, you know, retirement, as we know, is an invention.

It was an economic invention.

And what you contain in the thumbnail on your finger would change the life of a young entrepreneur

in Senegal who's just trying to make a start in a small business.

And it agrees me to see the waste.

So we need to recover this, I think.

Welcome, everybody.

This is Simon Gilbeau with Inspired.

I am back with another fantastic guest.

Inspired is all about telling stories of overcoming faith,

of the nitty-grittiness of how that is outworked

through life-sucker punches, different challenges. I've got

loads of mates from so many difference of career paths. And this week we've got Trevor Waldor.

I'm super excited. Trevor is a sort of leadership guru. He's an executive coach. He's an author. He's

the founder of emerging leaders, although he's passed that on. He's all about legacy. He talks

about this wisdom circle of investing in those

who are maturing. I guess that would be me, Trevor's older than me, a few generations up, I think,

to become leaders for the youth and investing in the youth to set their life compass to aspire to

becoming leaders, that sort of virtuous circle, all in the service of leading, loving and leaving a legacy. So we're going to get into all that stuff. But Trevor, really great to have you. Welcome. Great. Well, great to be with you, Simon. Thank you very much for inviting me. Yeah, well, I'm really excited about this. Listen, I know virtually nothing about your background. So let's dig into that bit. Go it yes born north london moved to essex when

i was about 18 months my dad was one of the first engineers brought in to open nuclear power

so out on the east coast so um we moved into the absolute wilds of essex and then into a local

town called molden a mixed childhood i say. It kind of seemed very happy

...