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My name is Demetri Kaffinas, and you're listening to Hidden Forces,

a podcast that inspires investors, entrepreneurs, and everyday citizens,

to challenge consensus narratives, and learn how to think critically about the systems of power shaping our world.

My guest in this episode of Hidden Forces is Rod Dreher, an American conservative

writer who has written about religion, politics, film, and culture in the American conservative,

National Review, The Weekly Standard, The Wall Street Journal, and other notable publications.

He's also the author of several extremely successful books on Christianity and religion, such as

How Dante Can Save Your Life, The Benedict Option, Live Not by Lies, and his most recent book

that we are here to talk about today, Living in Wonder, Finding Mystery and Meaning in a Secular

Age. Rod and I spend the first hour of our conversation engaging on fundamental

questions about the nature of existence, the nobility of God, the centrality of love, and how to find

mystery and meaning in a world that for many has come to feel empty and soulless. In the second hour,

Rod and I discuss what the Eastern tradition of Christianity can tell us about how we should live in the world, how those lessons apply to the culture wars, how to confront evil, and the appropriate role he thinks Christianity should play in policy and politics.

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