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🗓️ 5 August 2025
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0:00.0 | If you spend three weeks in the wilderness, your body adapts and it becomes normal. |
0:05.7 | After three months, anything else feels abnormal. |
0:08.9 | Was it harder in the winter because it was cold and we had to spend an hour a day like cutting firewood to to warm our tent and cook our food? |
0:16.6 | And yeah, it was harder. But once it becomes your routine, you don't think of it as something |
0:22.5 | that's hard. It's just, it's just life. |
0:27.1 | That's Dave Freeman. Over the past 20 years, he and his wife Amy have built a life around long, |
0:33.7 | human-powered expeditions through the wilderness. In 2010, they set out on a 12,000 mile |
0:40.1 | journey across Canada and down to Florida, traveling by canoe, kayak, and dog sled. Then in 2015, |
0:48.1 | they spent an entire year living in the wilderness without reentering society. No stores, no electricity, no roads. |
0:57.4 | Just the two of them, a nylon tent, |
1:00.3 | and the frozen lakes and forests of northern Minnesota. |
1:04.5 | I'm Shelby Stanger, and this is Wild Ideas Worth Living, |
1:08.1 | an REI Co-Op production, presented by Capital One and the |
1:13.2 | REI Co-Op MasterCard. Amy and Dave are lifelong outdoors people. In their 20s, they each became |
1:21.8 | wilderness guides in northern Minnesota, leading canoe trips through an extensive network of lakes |
1:27.2 | called the Boundary Waters. |
1:29.7 | Dave also started a nonprofit called the Wilderness Classroom, which allowed him to share his |
1:34.5 | outdoor adventures with kids across the country. |
1:39.2 | Amy and Dave Freeman, welcome to Wild Ideas Worth Living. |
1:43.2 | Excited to have you both on. Can we just context? Like, how old are you guys about now? |
1:47.6 | Or maybe what decade of life are you in if you care to share that? And then like, when did you |
1:52.0 | meet? Well, we're in our 40s. It's a good decade. I'm a few years older than Amy. |
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