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Welcome to another episode of Conversations with Coleman.

My guest today is Chloe Valdry.

Chloe Valdry is a writer and an entrepreneur.

Her work has appeared in the New York Times, The Daily Beast, and elsewhere. She runs a company

called The Theory of Enchantment, which teaches social and emotional learning in schools and diversity

and inclusion in companies and government agencies. We talk about her new podcast, which involves inviting her guests to smoke weed.

We talk about the difference between smoking weed and eating it.

We talk about how to think about black history and historical injustice, modern rhetoric about

white people.

We talk about the causes of the Great Awakening, which is a term

Matthew Iglesias coined, referring to the period since 2014 or so when white Democrats have

become more woke on the issue of race than black people. We talk about why Black Lives Matter perceives themselves

to be connected to the Israel-Palestine conflict. We talk about Chloe's unique approach to

Twitter, art, and politics. We talk about the relationship between hip-hop and the Western

canon. We talk about charter schools, branding, and we end the podcast by talking about why I don't

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