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Hashtag none life is real. So it's hard to find a dye lot and material and style that works for everybody. And so getting 100 women to agree on one thing to wear is, but this sister did a great job. So yes. And what you're seeing when you listen to people is not a justification, but an explanation. It is. And those are two different things. Because then you can be encountered there in love versus if it's justification, then, well, this is who I am. But no, that's not who we are. And understanding that, and if we can bring the love of Christ to that place of why I'm doing what I'm doing, and that's brought into communion, that I don't need to do the thing anymore. Forgiveness is not letting him off the hook or saying it didn't matter or condoning bad behavior or just sweeping it under the rug, that is not forgiveness. Like forgiveness is taking a full account and letting all things be seen

by the Lord and being very honest about what happened. And whether you ever confront that person

is, you know, that's a different, totally different story.

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Well, there you go. Thank you very much for being back on four and a half years.

I know. Can you believe that? Yeah. No. No, I can't actually. I know because I was I think... I think you're wrong. I still think you're wrong as you tell me. Well, I think it was June of 2021, which would be for almost four and a half years. That's wild. I know, you were at Stoomville. I was in town to do a studentville conference. And you had me come to your studio and yeah. Thanks for

coming back. I'm glad I didn't scare you away. I'm delighted to come back. You're so dear to me. So it's

always an honor. I love you guys. And Cameron, your family. We've been friends a long time.

Yeah. Give people maybe a quick overview of who you are and what you've been doing and what you're doing now. Yeah, well, I'm a member of the Society of Our Lady of the Most Holy Trinity, so hence the Trinitarian symbol on my habit. Beautiful habit, by the way. Isn't it? Yeah, this is our new model, so I'll just let you in on that. Is it? I know, see, most people wouldn't know that, but you're getting the first thing.

So it's like a refresh.

It was like 2.0.

Because you didn't even notice.

I didn't notice, but I did notice you look good.

Yeah. I like it very much. So what was different? Is it the dark of gray? It's the way that it's sewn and the style is a little different.

It is a different color, too.

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