Coming up on the Mark Devine show.

Happiness is a continuum.

It's part of what we should be experiencing.

It's not a state of being.

And that we can only help our employees to be motivated if we're, you know, helping

them to be well in the first place, you know, and we've been sort of throwing ice cream

to people that need water.

Hi, this is Mark Devine, and you're on the Mark Devine show.

On the show, I explore what it means to be fearless through the lens of the world's most

inspirational, compassionate, and resilient leaders.

Guests include notable folks from all walks of life, including meditation, monks, blockchains,

security, wizards, survivors of extreme adversity, and social scientists who study things

like burnout.

And I guess today, Jennifer Moss, we're going to talk about her new book, The Burnout

Epidemic, which is triggered by many factors that we need to understand.

We need to keep an eye on looking for symptoms that show up so we can take care of ourselves

and as leaders, transform our cultures and our systems so that we are more healthy and

we avoid things like burnout.

Jennifer is an award-winning journalist and author, international speaker, and workplace

culture strategist.

The Burnout Epidemic was named 10 Best New Management Books in 2022 by Thinkers 50, and

shortlisted for the 2021 Outstanding Works of Literature Award.

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