God wants to create a community, not only because a community is a picture to the world of what God's people and God's own person are like,

but God wants a community because it's difficult to stand alone. Well, that's Ray Vanderlawn with an important message about what it means to be a disciple of Jesus and to walk in his

footsteps. Welcome to Focus on the Family with Jim Daly. I'm John Fuller. John, people have heard me

mention this and Ray is where I got it from, our guest today, where I talk about God's Shalom

and how we need to bring his shalom into this world of chaos.

And it was through Ray Vanderlund's teaching that I learned that concept and applied it to my life and to what I say to others about our role as Christians.

And you've heard me say it.

I have many times.

I appreciate the insight.

And there's so many areas, especially in foster care, where Gene and I gave some of our time to bring foster kids in. I think we probably had about

15 foster kids come through our home. And that's chaos. When I look at the culture, the greatest

chaos I see is in the foster system. These poor little children that parental rights have

been taken from, and they're just desperate for adults to show care and compassion toward them.

That's the ultimate chaos in a person's life. So I do attribute that knowledge of scriptural

truth to Ray van der Lawn, And today we're going to talk with Ray

about a great new discipleship series that he has, RVL discipleship. People always say, what does

RVL stand for? Here we go, Ray van der Lawn. And it's just easier to say RVL. And I love it.

And Gene and I had the great privilege of traveling with Ray to Israel, soaking in the experience.

We walked, I think it was about 113 miles in the hot sun, but it was so worth it.

And I'm looking forward to our conversation today.

Yeah, and a lot of what you experienced there on those tours is captured in that the world

may know that series that we did with you, Ray. That has touched so many people. Folks have seen

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