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🗓️ 3 August 2025
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Powerful, cunning, uncompromising, even murderous (allegedly)... meet Rome’s first empress and one of ancient history’s ultimate power players.
Livia Drusilla has long been cast as the bloodthirsty matriarch of the early Roman Empire — wife of Augustus, mother of Tiberius, and alleged poisoner of rivals. But how much of this infamous image is fact and how much is fantasy? In this episode, Tristan Hughes is joined by Dr Emma Southon to peel back the layers of scandal and explore the real story behind Livia’s complex legacy. Was she a scheming killer, or simply a shrewd survivor in a ruthless world?
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Presented by Tristan Hughes. Audio editor is Aidan Lonergan and the producer is Joseph Knight. The senior producer is Anne-Marie Luff.
All music courtesy of Epidemic Sounds
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0:00.0 | Hey guys, Tristan here, and I have an exciting announcement. The Ancients will be returning to the |
0:06.0 | London Podcast Festival. Now, last year tickets, they sold out at record speed. So this time, |
0:12.6 | we've been upgraded. We've got a bigger room. And you, you can be there too on Friday the 5th of |
0:18.8 | September at 7pm at King's Place. |
0:21.6 | Now I've invited Friend of the podcast, the fabulous Dr. Eve MacDonald, to join me on stage |
0:27.6 | where we will be exploring the gripping story of ancient Carthage. |
0:32.6 | Carthage, the Phoenician city that became a superpower, an empire that rivaled Rome for control in the |
0:38.9 | Western Mediterranean, and ultimately had a terrible traumatic demise. |
0:44.8 | Of course, the ancients is nothing without you, so we want you to be there in the audience |
0:49.5 | taking part and asking us your burning questions. Tickets for the festival always sell fast. |
0:56.1 | So book yourself a seat now at www.kingsplace.co.com.com.com. |
1:01.0 | We'll click the link in the show notes of this episode. |
1:05.5 | The team and I cannot wait to see you there. |
1:15.7 | Hey guys. I hope you're doing well. I'm all good here. I'm recording this intro right next to a Loch in central Scotland for a very special upcoming ancients episode. Stay tuned for that. |
1:22.6 | Today's episode is all about one of the most extraordinary women from early imperial Rome. |
1:28.0 | The Empress Livia, the wife of Augustus, the mother of his successor, Tiberius, |
1:34.7 | and a woman who's developed quite an infamous reputation down through the centuries. |
1:39.7 | But what's the fact and what's the fiction? That is what we're delving into today. |
1:45.6 | I knew very little about Livia's story, so it was fascinating to learn more from our wonderful guest, Dr. Emma Southern. |
1:52.0 | I really do hope you enjoy. Let's go. |
2:12.2 | Music She was one of the most powerful women in the early Roman Empire, the wife of Augustus, |
2:20.8 | first empress of Rome, Livia, Jerusalem. Throughout history, Livia has had quite the infamous reputation. Ever since ancient times, she's been portrayed as scandalous and manipulative, a murderous |
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