Liverpool held by Sunderland, Leeds stun Chelsea & Arsenal win again
Tifo Football Podcast
The Athletic
4.6 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 4 December 2025
⏱️ 65 minutes
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Summary
Liverpool’s late draw against Sunderland at Anfield, Leeds shock victory against Chelsea at Elland Road, Man City’s thrilling 5-4 victory over Fulham and Arsenal’s win against Brentford were all discussed in the latest Tifo Football podcast…
This episode of the Tifo football podcast is hosted by Joe Devine, features Jon Mackenzie & Seb Stafford-Bloor and is produced by Steve Hankey.
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Timecodes
00:00 - the first, official & sanctioned intro
02:48 - the unsanctioned intro
03:36 - Sunderland secure a draw against Liverpool
08:00 - Joe tries to understand cricket
09:46 - Liverpool gave Sunderland loads of time & space
14:20 - there was some banging
14:30 - back to Liverpool & Sunderland
19:50 - Chelsea lost to Leeds in the thick middle
24:00 - How Leeds have pivoted
26:40 - Chelsea without Moisés Caicedo
30:22 - changing Chelsea’s centre backs & lack of a consistent environment
34:31 - a break
34:33 - A barnstorming game between Fulham & Man City
47:07 - Arsenal win again
49:50 - Mikel Merino’s head
53:48 - Arsenal are great in open play, actually
1:00:13 - Brentford’s Igor Thiago is good
1:02:43 - Other famous Igors, some were cut…
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| 0:00.0 | The Athletic F.C. |
| 0:06.4 | Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. |
| 0:10.3 | I'm Joe Devine, and today I am delighted to be joined by Sebastian Stafford Bloor. |
| 0:16.4 | Hello, Joe Devine. |
| 0:17.4 | All right, as again. |
| 0:18.2 | It's going well. |
| 0:18.8 | And John McKenzie. |
| 0:20.0 | Hi. |
| 0:41.3 | Also Steve's here. Hello. And Steve brought his own camera from... What an embarrassment. We're in a new different studio today. We're in the small studio at the athletic headquarters here, partly because we're experimenting with it, and also because we've got Seb who's remote, and John, who forgot he was on holiday before confirming his attendance to this episode so he's also remote there we go um now what did we talk about on today's episode like John just sits in his |
| 0:48.3 | house on holiday like in that in that position so yeah I'm pretty sure that's what John does on |
| 0:54.0 | holiday right isn't it yeah yeah if he's not there, he's in crew. He loves crew because he loves trains. I think that's it. Yeah, that's it. Liverpool dropped yet more points at Anfield, don't they? That's what happened. But John didn't watch it, so you can ignore every single thing that he says |
| 1:11.3 | in that section. We talk to Seb about that instead. We go through the different fielding |
| 1:15.3 | positions in cricket, or some of the pretend ones, is Pinewood Bank, a fielding position. If it's |
| 1:20.7 | not, it should be. We find out. Seb tells us a charming story about his first ever press |
| 1:25.7 | conference. I don't remember. I must have tuned out at that point. |
| 1:28.4 | It was literally 40 minutes ago. |
| 1:29.8 | Was it? |
| 1:30.1 | Yeah. |
| 1:30.9 | Yeah. I forgot. Seb's not a great storyteller, I would say. So it's sometimes it's hard to. There was a serial killer in the podcast. There might not be, said. There might not be. There might not be. we move on to a cracking game at Craven Cottage |
| 1:45.4 | Thanks Gromit |
| 1:46.7 | Where Fulham were by no means cowardly in their attempt to come back against Manchester City. |
| 1:52.6 | Good Lord, Steve. |
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