Liverpool go 4-4-2 and how does Arsenal's defence compare to some of the best ever?
The Game
The Times
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🗓️ 23 October 2025
⏱️ 60 minutes
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Summary
Liverpool returned to form with an impressive win in Frankfurt. A new formation and no Salah. Was it a one-off experiment or the start of a new look Liverpool?
Arsenal kept yet another clean sheet as they beat a normally tough Atletico Madrid; just how good is this Arsenal back four? Would any get into some of the best in Premier League history – Arsenal 98’, Man Utd 08’ , Chelsea 04’ and Liverpool 18’?
Did someone say there was a recruitment process to appoint Sean Dyche at Forest? Hang on a minute!
And can Nuno save West Ham from relegation…probably not.
Tom Clarke is joined by Gregor Robertson, Jonathan Northcroft and Martin Samuel
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the game football podcast from The Times. Liverpool are back on track |
| 0:09.5 | with a 5-1 win in Frankfurt. All five goals coming without Mosala on the pitch. Is this the |
| 0:14.9 | future for a new luck Liverpool? Elsewhere, Arsenal picked up a commanding 4-0 home win against Athletico. Just how good |
| 0:22.4 | is Mikhail Arteeta's back for? And how does it compare with other great defences from down the years? |
| 0:27.9 | There are also wins for Chelsea, Newcastle, Manchester City and a battling draw for Tottenham. And on |
| 0:32.3 | today's show, we'll also discuss Sean Deishe's return to management at Nottingham Forest and the |
| 0:37.2 | growing crisis at West Ham. I'm Tom Clark and joining me today. We have the chief correspondent for the Times and Sunday Times, Martin Samuel, the football correspondent for the Sunday Times, Johnny Northcroft and the former footballer turned football writer, Gregor Robertson. It's here as usual. Team, we're all together in the studio, lovely stuff. We've got absolutely loads and loads to talk about let's dive straight in with liverpool gregar monday show is it a crisis is it not a crisis turns out you just drop mosala play florrie inverts in a good position you win five one and everything's back on track simple as that |
| 1:06.8 | am i right no we go that quite that that far. Frankfurt were quite accommodating hosts, |
| 1:12.8 | I say. |
| 1:14.0 | It wasn't, you know, |
| 1:14.6 | the first half an hour |
| 1:15.4 | they looked like they were defending |
| 1:16.6 | brilliantly and it was going to be |
| 1:17.6 | another difficult evening for Liverpool. |
| 1:20.1 | Then they went behind |
| 1:21.2 | and then Frankfurt |
| 1:22.6 | lost their heads. |
| 1:24.8 | Like every time they went forward |
| 1:25.9 | they looked like |
| 1:26.8 | and just left themselves wide open. |
| 1:28.9 | So, but after that, yeah, Liverpool, Liverpool, were pretty clinical. |
| 1:33.7 | What do you make of the changes from Slot? |
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