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It's 4 p.m. on Friday, December 26th in New York City.

It's 11 p.m. on Friday, December 26th, in Israel, where Israelis are immersed in Shabbat.

This week, we mix things up a bit on Inside Call Me Back, which is the member's only edition of the Call Me Back podcast. Usually, a meet, Nadavari, take challenging questions from subscribers.

But this week, we released the recording of an in-person conversation between ArchMedia

contributor Nadavail and Tal Becker, who's a Call Me Back regular and vice president of the

Shalom Hartman Institute.

It took place a couple weeks ago at an event at the JCC in New Jersey.

The event was titled, Where Do We Go From Here?

The Future of Israel and Jewish Peoplehood.

We discussed the different roots of anti-Semitism in the West,

the resilience and defiance expressed in living a Jewish life

and the changing attitudes towards Israel among American Jews. The conversation covered so much ground

that I wanted to share a sneak peek with our listeners. If you want to catch the full conversation,

consider joining Inside Call Me Back by using the link in the episode description or going to arcmedia.org.

It's 7.45 p.m. on Monday, December 8. See, this is how I can tell if there are, you know, they all say they listen, but until you, until they react to the

timestamp, I don't know if it's legit. So, first of all, thank you all for being here.

There's a wonderful turnout. And I'm especially grateful to be here with my friends, Tal,

and the Dove. And so we're going to jump into a conversation here. And we are going to be

free flowing. As Tal reminded me before we walked on the stage, what's the topic tonight? What's the head?

What's it? Something simple. I think the future of Israel and Jewish people. There we go.

So our goal tonight is within 45 minutes to just wrap that up like a tidy bow. Like we'll have that

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