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🗓️ 25 December 2025
⏱️ 52 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You are listening to an art media podcast. |
| 0:08.5 | We have this superpower from the West that is calling the shots. |
| 0:12.9 | We're now a part of Rome. |
| 0:14.4 | We're at the end of a very long reign of a king that might not even really be Jewish. |
| 0:19.5 | So there's this feeling that the solution, both politically and religiously, can only come |
| 0:26.1 | from a dramatic, drastic event, divine intervention, or a type of figure, a Messiah, |
| 0:34.9 | that will shake everything up beyond the normal politics of the day. |
| 0:41.0 | It's 7 p.m. on Tuesday, December 23rd in New York City. It is 2 a.m. on Wednesday, December 24th in Israel, where Israelis are turning to a new day. |
| 1:03.6 | On today's episode, we have Benjamin Beirley returning to Call Me Back due to popular demand. |
| 1:08.7 | Benjamin is an American-Israeli PhD candidate and researcher |
| 1:12.2 | in ancient historical texts at La Orientale University in Naples, Italy. About two months ago, |
| 1:20.0 | Benjamin joined me on the podcast to discuss his experience with extreme anti-Zionism and anti-Semitism |
| 1:26.2 | in Naples. The episode had quite a response. It seemed to |
| 1:30.4 | have touched a nerve, with many listeners reaching out to us to tell us how much they learn from |
| 1:35.0 | Benjamin's stories and insights. Today, Benjamin joins for something a little different. It's |
| 1:41.0 | Christmas Day today, which marks a story that happened in a very familiar land |
| 1:45.3 | more than 2,000 years ago. For this holiday season, we wanted to go back and learn about the |
| 1:51.1 | Jewish world that defined the year 1 AD in Jerusalem. The story of that period is one of |
| 1:57.6 | factionalism, religious and political tensions, civil war, and geopolitical |
| 2:02.4 | drama. But ultimately, says Benjamin, it's a story that will very much resonate with all of our |
| 2:09.5 | listeners, especially, but not only, our Jewish listeners. So with that, here's Benjamin Beerley |
| 2:16.4 | on Year 1 in Jerusalem. Before a conversation, here's a word from our sponsor. |
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