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Unpacking Israeli History

Live with Rachel Goldberg-Polin: Grief, Faith and Hersh

Unpacking Israeli History

Unpacked

Judaism, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, History

4.81.3K Ratings

🗓️ 29 April 2026

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

When Rachel Goldberg-Polin buried her son Hersh, she heard part of herself go into the ground with him. Recorded live before nearly 1,000 people at Temple Judea in Miami, Rachel joins host Noam Weissman to discuss her new memoir, sharing how writing became a way to survive unbearable grief and asking what it means to keep going when the person who was your whole world is gone. Drawing on Jewish theology, Viktor Frankl, and a prophetic journal entry Hersh wrote as a teenager, Rachel wrestles with how hope and despair can coexist. When We See You Again, Rachel Goldberg-Polin, Jon Polin https://whenweseeyouagainbook.com/ Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Franklhttps://www.beacon.org/Mans-Search-for-Meaning-P602.aspx A Fine Line Searching for Balance Among Mountains by Graham Zimmerman https://www.mountaineers.org/books/books/a-fine-line-searching-for-balance-among-mountains This episode was sponsored by Neil and Pam Weissman. To sponsor an episode or to be in touch, please email noam@unpacked.media. Check out this episode on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube.⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠This podcast is brought to you by Unpacked, an OpenDor Media brand. ------------------- For other podcasts from Unpacked, check out: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Jewish History Nerds⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Soulful Jewish Living⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Stars of David with Elon Gold ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Wondering Jews⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Noam. Before we get into this episode, I want to tell you it's a little bit different.

0:05.4

What you're about to hear is a bonus episode recorded live two nights ago, April 27, 2026.

0:12.4

A conversation with the incredible Rachel Goldberg-Polin mother of Hirsch, Goldberg, Poland,

0:20.2

who millions around the world came to know after he was

0:23.3

captured by Hamas and brutally murdered after 328 days of unimaginable suffering.

0:31.7

Hirsch was among the most visible of the 251 hostages.

0:35.8

He was American and Israeli, the image of him, his arm blown off as he was

0:41.5

kidnapped by Hamas, became seared into people's minds. And alongside that image were his parents,

0:49.0

John and Rachel, doing everything possible to bring him home. For millions across the world, his face became the symbol of the struggle to get the

1:00.1

hostages home.

1:01.7

So I want to prepare you for it because it was a lot.

1:06.3

It was intense.

1:08.2

I try to be dispassionate when teaching history sometimes, but this was different. It was

1:14.2

emotional for me, for Rachel, and for the entire live audience of nearly 1,000 people at Temple

1:20.2

Judea in Miami. I got pretty choked up, which I tried hard not to do. As you'll hear me say more than once in the conversation,

1:29.8

Rachel is not just the mother of her own children, Hirsch, or Leon Leby. In many ways, she has

1:34.5

become a kind of mother to the people of Israel, to Jewish people across the globe, and also to the

1:40.6

broader world for anyone who has endured suffering. And frankly, that's all of us.

1:46.8

There's something about the way she speaks, the way she holds pain and hope at the same time

1:51.9

that just stays with you. I really encourage you to listen or watch all the way through,

1:58.2

sit with it, let it land. And after you do, go read her book, it will deepen what

2:03.7

you're about to hear in a really meaningful way. This episode was sponsored by the only people

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