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🗓️ 16 December 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Recently, Michael Lewis spoke with Nicolle Wallace, host of the podcast The Best People, at Symphony Space in New York. They discussed what it was like re-visiting the Big Short 15 years on. And we hear the actor Zach Grenier dramatize a portion of The Big Short.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.4 | Hey, y'all, each week on the Sam Sanders show from KCRW, |
| 0:08.1 | we ask big questions and share hot takes about the pop culture we love. |
| 0:13.5 | Now that we have YouTube, we don't need any more biopics. |
| 0:15.9 | If they've been alive such that I can watch them on YouTube, I don't need it. |
| 0:19.3 | I don't think that music is getting worse. |
| 0:21.7 | I think y'all just don't listen to artists who aren't in the mainstream. |
| 0:24.9 | Taylor Swift retire. |
| 0:26.0 | It's time to retire. |
| 0:27.2 | The Sam Sanders Show from KCRW, wherever you get your podcast and on YouTube. |
| 0:41.8 | Push Pushkin. |
| 0:49.5 | I'm Lydia Jean-Cott. |
| 0:50.7 | I'm Michael Lewis. |
| 0:55.6 | And we're here with a special kind of bonus episode of the Big Short Companion Podcast. Yes, which you've heard because you were there for it live. I was interviewed by |
| 1:00.8 | Nicole Wallace at Symphony Space, and you were in the audience. And there were a few wrinkles to |
| 1:07.1 | this interview that made it really fun. One, it was Nicole Wallace, and she's a fabulous |
| 1:11.2 | interviewer, and I've been on her show on MSNBC, and she has a devoted and large following, |
| 1:17.0 | and there's a reason for it. Two was, as we'll hear, an actor came out at the beginning |
| 1:23.2 | of the show and performed one of the passages from the book. And he was so much better at reading |
| 1:30.2 | my book than I was. And it was, I was mesmerized. It was like I was listening to the thing for the |
| 1:35.3 | first time. And the third was that characters from the big short were actually in the audience. |
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