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IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Live On Your Edge with Dr. Orna Guralnik

IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson

Higher Ground

Relationships, Society & Culture, Education, Self-improvement

4.49.1K Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Dr. Orna Guralnik, famed psychoanalyst and star of Showtime’s Couples Therapy, joins Michelle and Craig to answer a listener’s question about disconnection and boredom in her marriage. Craig explains why he hid the problems in his first marriage from his family, Michelle discusses a pet peeve that drives her nuts, and Dr. Orna explains how to be truly present with another person in any long-term relationship. Plus, IMO gets its first furry guest! 


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0:00.0

What are you thinking about?

0:23.3

You know, I penny for your thought. Yeah. What are you thinking about? And then do you really go there? And then. Do you really say, because how many times do somebody asks, what are you thinking about? And you're like, well, let me make up a thing. Right. Because I don't want to actually tell you what I was thinking about. Which was like, the way you're chewing makes me want to smack you upside the head. That's why guys don't want to have to say.

0:25.9

That would be an edge.

0:27.4

And that would be really interesting.

0:28.7

You could like open something up there in a big way.

0:31.2

Why does your chewing annoy me so much?

0:33.1

Right.

0:33.3

Let's discuss.

0:36.2

This episode is Pratt. Let's discuss. Right.

0:44.7

This episode is brought to you by Rivian and Progressive Insurance.

0:46.9

Well, hi there.

0:47.6

How are you?

0:48.3

I'm terrific.

0:48.8

How are you?

0:49.7

I like you blue.

0:50.3

Yeah.

0:51.7

I'm more blue more.

0:52.5

You're looking good.

0:53.4

I feel good.

0:54.0

Yeah. Yeah. that's good.

0:56.4

So today's show is going to be a knockout.

0:59.7

Yeah, yeah.

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