Welcome to the global phenomenon,

Surviving the Survivor,

where we bring you the best guests in all of true crime.

Here's your host, Emmy Award-winning journalist,

Joel Waldman.

And I forgot the show open, but welcome to surviving the survivor, the podcast that brings you the best guest in all of true crime.

And today does not disappoint with these two amazing women.

Welcome to STS. If it's your first time here, I'm not the usual host.

I am just filling in, my name is Iliana, I'm also known as the COE here at S T S. For full disclosure I am

married to the host Joel Waldman who is on the road so for today I am filling in I'm also a

former network news correspondent who took a break from news to raise my three kids, two dogs, and maybe my husband.

So here I am today and I am here with these amazing two women and there are no two people that know

Chad Daybell and his story better than these two women.

First here up top on the right is Lauren from Hidden True Crime.

Lauren has been there. I know many of you guys have been following her and she's been

there on the ground covering everything not just for this trial but for the Lori Valo trial as well.

You've also seen Lauren on dateline on Lauren crime on News Nation.

So thank you so much for being here Lauren.

Absolutely. Thank you so much for being here Lauren. Absolutely. Thank you for having me. And then we have Gee, there at the bottom,

Pretty Lives and Alibis.

You know her from her podcast.

You also know her from News Nation, Law and Crime Crime and probably so many other media outlets.

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