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The Lawfare Podcast

Live From Ukraine: Katya Savchenko Survived Bucha—and Wrote About It

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 July 2022

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

#LiveFromUkraine is an experimental project hosted on Twitter Spaces by Ben Wittes, with the goal of interviewing a diverse lineup of guests to educate and engage directly with people on the ground in Ukraine during Russia's ongoing invasion. In this episode, Ben talks with Katya Savchencko (@shanovna_s), who grew up in the Donbas region of Ukraine and moved to Bucha following the Russian invasion of that region in 2014. This year, following the full-scale invasion, she survived several days of the brutal and murderous Russian occupation of Bucha before escaping by train with her sister. She kept a diary of her days in Bucha, which she recently published on Medium in English translation. Savchhencko joined Benjamin Wittes on #LiveFromUkraine

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I'm Katherine Pompilio with an episode of Live From Ukraine for July 17th, 2022.

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From Ukraine, an experimental podcast hosted by Benjamin Wittes that spotlights Ukrainian

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voices mid-rushes invasion of the country.

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Today's Live From Ukraine episode features a conversation with Katya Savchenko, a Ukrainian

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woman who survived several days of the brutal and murderous Russian occupation of Bucha.

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In the episode, Savchenko spoke with Wittes about her experience in Bucha and her decision

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