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I'm Michael Kier at the UFC X here in Las Vegas, and you all know this band's

sitting to my right, Kevin Hollins. It's been a long time, my man since you and I have had the chance to talk.

I remember when you were just coming up in the UFC and we were doing these interviews, and now look at the gold look at the

class. I mean, you're just crashing the game right now. How does it all feel all these years later?

You know, it feels good. I still feel the same. I just feel like I got a little extra Qing in the bank account, a couple extra cars that drive.

You know what I mean? So life's good. Life's good. Can't go playing. I'm down a weight class. I mean, I'm a little bit skinnier, but I'm still sexy, baby. I'm still sexy.

Are you enjoying the new weight class? Because you said one thing you said to me a couple of years back that I was

remembered is I want to go to 170, not because I have to, but because it'll give me some more discipline.

You feel like that would change your game altogether. Do you feel like you've accomplished that? That's exactly what's happened.

You know, having been 170 means I have to put in the cardio a little bit more. It also means that I got to eat healthier.

It also means that I might sleep a little bit more after doing heat retention. This and this, that and this and the third, you know what I mean?

And all these things put together just makes for a better Kevin Holland. It makes for me to be an actual professional athlete.

Instead of just being a guy who wants to just show up and scrap. So if I'm a better athlete, I'm not getting tired, I'm doing things better.

I mean, overall, it's good for a business. 10 means before. Is that the best of your career?

I mean, I don't know. I mean, people say that. I still got taken down that fight. There's been fights where I've never gotten taken down.

You know, there's been fights where I've done things amazingly. So I mean, yeah, I mean, it's it's good though, because he's a vet.

Nobody, I don't think I've ever fought anybody with more fights than him. So yeah, that's pretty cool too.

You've actually gotten the attention of Wonderboy Thompson recently did some interviews asked about some different opponents that he mentioned two names.

But chop a head and yourself. So you got the man's attention. I feel like that's a fight a lot of people would like to see.

Your thoughts on that is that something you would be interested in. Yeah, I would love a Wonderboy fight.

You know, I seen him earlier and he was like, you young guys and I was like 29 years old. I ain't that young, you know what I mean?

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