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Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

LIVE FROM CRIME CON 2021: Cult Mom Lori Vallow manipulates Judge?

Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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True Crime, News

4.2 • 8.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 June 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

“Cult mom” Lori Vallow has been found incompetent to stand trial after prosecutors charged her with murder and numerous related offenses. Lori Vallow and her husband, Chad Daybell, are facing new charges in the deaths of Vallow’s two children, as well as Daybell’s previous wife, Tammy Daybell. Tylee Ryan, 16, and 7-year-old JJ Vallow‘s bodies were found in Daybell’s backyard in June 2020. Daybell is also facing first-degree murder in the death of his wife Tammy Daybell, who he claimed died in her sleep in October 2019, and declined an autopsy. Both Daybell and Vallow are charged with conspiracy to commit first-degree murder in Tammy’s death. Joining Nancy Grace today: Joe Scott Morgan - Professor of Forensics, Jacksonville State University, Author, "Blood Beneath My Feet" Featured on "The Piketon Massacre: Return to Pike County" on iHeartRadio  Dr. Angela Arnold - Psychiatrist, Atlanta GA www.angelaarnoldmd.com, Expert in the Treatment of Pregnant/Postpartum Women Andy Kahan - Director of Victim Services and Advocacy at Crime Stoppers of Houston, crime-stoppers.org Ashley Willcott - Judge and Trial Attorney, Anchor on Court TV, www.ashleywillcott.com  Nate Eaton - News Director, EastIdahoNews.com Twitter: @NateNewsNow, Instagram: @n.eaton - Instagram Sheryl McCollum - Forensic Expert & Cold Case Investigative Research Institute Founder, ColdCaseCrimes.org Spencer Coursen - Founder and President: Coursen Security Group www.CoursenSecurityGroup.com, Author: "The Safety Trap: A Security Expert’s Secrets For Staying Safe in a Dangerous World", www.TheSafetyTrap.com, nstagram: @s.coursen, Twitter: @SpencerCoursen THIS BROADCAST WAS RECORDED 06/05/21

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0:00.0

We are live at CrimeCon 2021 in Austin.

0:18.4

According to a secret green jury,

0:21.8

Coltmom, Lori Valow and I quote, used her religious beliefs to cover up crime, i.e. murder.

0:36.5

Rarely have I seen that written in a green jury indictment.

0:42.2

Typically, grand jurors who are often taken from voter registration,

0:47.6

may be it's called grand because they're 30, 40 members of a grand jury.

0:53.7

For a petit or petite jury of 12,

0:57.6

they hear this particular case, a grand jury.

1:01.2

For instance, in city of Atlanta, grand jury make Tuesday thirsty.

1:05.7

They would have 150 cases a day.

1:10.2

They would go just like that, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

1:13.0

Usually with one witness and then you walk out the grand jury vote.

1:16.6

They would go push a buzzer and then you bring in the next case.

1:20.0

It's really fast.

1:20.9

It's not a decision of guilty innocence.

1:23.1

It's simply, is there enough evidence to take this to a petit or petite, small jury of 12?

1:31.2

So I've never seen actually the detail added in the indictment,

1:38.6

which is usually the jurisdiction, the general date of the offense,

1:44.4

the defendant, the victim, the motive death, if known,

1:50.2

and a bearbugs list of the state's witnesses on the bat.

1:54.4

That's what an indictment is.

1:55.7

It's signed by the jury for person.

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