Well, it's Jay Nordinger at CPAC for National Review and Ricochet, sitting with Carly The

Arena. Once of Hewlett-Packard, now of California and the world.

Good to see you.

It's great to see you as well.

Well, you are a businesswoman and a whiz, and you seem to have a political bug.

A lot of us have a political bug.

Is it relatively recent?

Have you always had it?

Did you think about this when you were a girl?

Is it a post-corperate notion?

When did you get the political bug?

Well, you know, I think I realized when I was in corporate America how big an impact government and

government and politicians and policies have on all our lives.

I have to say I grew up in a very political family.

I would sit and watch the news.

We moved around a lot, but my dad would watch the news every night and I would watch it with him and he would yell at the TV and then in the morning he'd read the New York Times and yell at the newspaper and so I grew up saying daddy why do you read this if it makes

you so upset so I kind of had that conservative oh very very but it was really

when I got to be fairly senior in business that I realized what an impact politics had.

And then I got really started in a presidential campaign during the 2008 presidential.

I was a surrogate and a chair for John McCain.

Yes, I recall. And did you like it? I did and I learned that I

loved a campaign. I love the challenge of boiling down very complicated things into language that will land in people's

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