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🎧 Live at the University of Strathclyde | ’How is Devolution Changing Post-EU?’

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🗓️ 12 January 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

‘Devolution looks very different now than it did in 1998.’ Dr Andrew Tickell, Lecturer in Law at Glasgow Caledonian University, hosts this discussion with the Convener and Deputy Convener of the Parliament’s Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee, Clare Adamson MSP and Donald Cameron MSP. On Monday, the Committee held a joint event with Strathclyde University Law School to discuss their report 'How is Devolution Changing Post-EU?' with leading academics and lawyers from across the UK. The Committee found that devolution has changed and now looks “very different” after the UK’s departure from the EU, a key difference being how the regulatory environment within the UK is managed compared to how it was managed within the EU. Recommendations from the report include the establishment of a new Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) between the UK and Devolved Governments and the development of supplementary agreements on both Common Frameworks and the use of delegated powers by UK Ministers in devolved areas. You can read the report in full here: How Devolution is Changing Post-EU | Scottish Parliament

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0:00.0

Okay, tremendous. Oh, well, welcome everybody to this Scottish Parliamentary podcast. I am Dr. Andrew Tickel.

0:06.3

I'm a senior lecturer in law at Glasgow Caledonian University and will be doing a fairly gentle interview with our fairly gentle, depends how it goes,

0:15.6

discussion of some of the main themes, I suppose, which emerged from this report in terms of consistency,

0:23.6

transparency, accountability, but I suppose we can begin by talking about the issue of consensus,

0:29.6

that if you found out that the Scottish Parliament was publishing a report about the impact of Brexit

0:35.6

and we were told that the convener of the committee was a member of the

0:38.7

SNP and the deputy convener was a member of the Conservative Party. I don't think many people would

0:43.3

assume that this would be a consensus report produced by you and your colleagues. So I wonder,

0:48.8

Claire, maybe we'll begin with you. Can you talk about why is this a consensus report on such a

0:53.4

controversial series of issues?

0:55.0

Well, I think it's down to the members of the committee more than anything and the approach

1:01.8

that the members of the committee take. We're all quite experienced parliamentarians, most of us

1:07.1

on the committee. And that role of leaving your party political hat at the door

1:12.9

when you're doing a committee report

1:15.7

or doing any sort of legislative development and inquiry

1:19.9

is really important, a really important principle.

1:23.5

And I think all of us also value principles of democracy and certainly support the devolution settlement.

1:33.8

We might have different constitutional futures in mind, but nonetheless, we're all there to represent our constituents.

1:41.3

And any concerns that have been raised, I think, around how the stakeholders and our

1:48.2

constituents and people in Scotland that we represent might be impacted if we don't sort out

1:54.0

some of these issues.

1:55.2

Donald, do you agree with that?

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