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How do you, Jen, JT, how do you feel?

I'm tired, is anybody else tired?

Yeah, it's gonna, and when we're tired,

things go very normally, so I wouldn't worry at all that will be nuts up here.

Yeah, yeah, big nap tomorrow. Huge, huge nap.

Yeah, and in classic JT fashion, I need you to get closer to the microphone.

Oh, here we are.

I sometimes excuse me, breathing into it, like I can't do that here.

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