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Hi everyone, as you might be able to tell

from the sound of bird song and the vague

harm of a chainsaw on the distance,

I'm actually on holidays this week.

So please enjoy instead of a regular episode,

a live episode that I recorded at the Hay Festival last month with Jack Edwards.

You've probably heard of Jack Edwards before. He is the Internet's librarian. He is honestly

one of the best kind of book influencers out there, and I was so, so delighted to be interviewed

by him on stage about the Rachel incident and Skipshark and just a bunch of other stuff about writing

and how I feel about the kind of writing side of my life in general. I love having this conversation.

I hope you love listening to it and we'll be back with our regularly scheduled program programming next week. Caroline O'Donohue is a New York Times bestselling author and podcaster. Her podcast

sentimental garbage has been streamed 12 million times and I'm seeing some faces in the

crowd too who are here for our live recording last night. So thank you for coming back.

That's always a relief. The people want to see us again. The Rachel incident is an adult novel which sold

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