Last summer I hired a fly fishing guide to take me out on a new section of

River that I'd never done before and the shop gave me options they said hey

you want you know I'll say Dale and Dale's like this he's in his 30s

could you see him yeah could you see him no they it was over the phone I described

it yeah I was describing him you can have Dale or or you can have George and

George moves a little slow these days but boy he sure knows that river right

I said give me George are you kidding me like I want to spend time with the man

who has spent time on that river I don't want the new shiny thing I don't want

the the guide that's got the amazing you know 80 yard cast and can handle a

fly rod like nobody's business I want the older guy right has walked this

river most of his life are you kidding me I'll come back to the Wild at

Harp podcast friends John Eldridge Bart Hanson here in part two of a

conversation about aging meaning about the fourth quarter in our lives but

just about the journey of accepting the transitions that come in each stage of

life with the reality of of age so yeah welcome back Bart really looking forward

to part two here you ended the show last time with a phrase that we hardly

spent any time talking about I actually want to pick up with it he's talked

about letting go why is that significant to you right now what do you mean by

learning to let go yeah there were kind of two categories of that John one was to

to live in this fourth quarter how do you live in this fourth quarter choosing to

live choosing to live and then what is it that we need to let go of for example

what are you what are you having to let go of yeah I think anyone that's that's

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