Hello and welcome to another episode of Happy Mum, Happy Baby, the podcast.

Today's guest, I stumbled across on Instagram and I was instantly pulled in and because her

root to motherhood is a little less traditional than most, than many and I just wanted to

know more and I'm absolutely, I just love seeing photos of her and her son. It is the amazing

lives alone who is actually called Live Thorn and I never knew that until today on Skype.

Yeah, I don't have a jazzy, salone surname. It's a shame.

Oh no, hello. Thorn, Thorn is strong. Hi, how are you?

Good, fine, thank you, fine. Dealing with, you just locked down like everyone else.

And a move. And a move, yeah. But you know, we'll just breathe through it.

Where things are going on, it's all good.

So tell me about your childhood, what was that like?

I had a great childhood to be honest but it was it was in two halves basically because I

grew up with, I've got, I'm one of four, Mum and Dad were happily married, we grew up in

the country, you know, in Ice Garden. So it was all very busy, a lot going on, Mum and

Dad were really social. And then when I was eight, my mum got diagnosed with breast cancer.

So then from the age of eight, everything changed really, obviously. But equally because

I was so young, I didn't know any different, you know, that actually quite sadly, it's

that that became quite normal. Mum was going in for treatment and she used to tell me

various things about why she was going and all that sort of stuff. But yeah, generally,

I mean, apart from the shitness of cancer, my childhood was, you know, I was really lucky

with you, had a really lovely family in it. And then my dad actually got ill after my

mum got better. He had Asbestos poisoning. I don't know the real name. Why do you, but I don't

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