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Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Little Happier: A Moment in the Life of JFK Illustrates How Hard It Is to Know Other People

Happier with Gretchen Rubin

Gretchen Rubin / The Onward Project

Education, Health & Fitness, Self-improvement

4.713K Ratings

🗓️ 14 October 2019

⏱️ 3 minutes

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Summary

An episode from the life of John F. Kennedy is a terrific reminder of the fact that we don’t know, we can’t really understand, what other people are thinking, why they’re doing the things they do, or how they see the world. Get tickets for our live podcast events in Seattle, Portland, San Fransisco, Chicago, Kansas City, Providence, Philadelphia, Washington D.C., Atlanta and Charlotte here:https://gretchenrubin.com/events To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Gretchen Ribbon and this is a little happier.

0:04.4

One thing I've realized is that when I'm dealing with other people, it's all too easy

0:09.2

to be honestly misled, to misunderstand, to think that I grasp someone's motives when

0:15.9

in fact I'm totally wrong.

0:18.0

It's just very hard to understand other people's thoughts and actions.

0:22.6

We think we understand more than we do.

0:26.4

For instance, I remember a story I read when I was doing the research for my short, unconventional

0:31.2

biography, 40 ways to look at JFK.

0:34.9

What a fascinating subject Kennedy was.

0:36.9

I loved writing that book.

0:40.2

Now Kennedy had a devoted aide, Harris Wofford, and in his book called of Kennedy's and Kings

0:46.6

making sense of the 60s, Wofford writes about just this kind of misunderstanding between

0:52.3

JFK himself and the journalist, Theodore White.

0:57.7

Wofford explains this misunderstanding, which happened when White was drafting his book,

1:02.4

the making of the President 1960.

1:06.0

Wofford writes, late on election night with Nixon still not conceding, John Kennedy walked

1:12.1

across Bob Kennedy's lawn.

1:14.6

In the dark his companion, journalist, Theodore White, thought he said, I'm angry.

1:20.1

In the original manuscript, Theodore White showed me white pegged the making of the

1:24.2

President 1960 on that incident.

1:28.0

What finally broke the calm of this cool, contained Kennedy and caused him to display such heat.

1:34.1

To answer this, white in his first draft flashback over all the miles traveled, talks given,

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